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Breaking it down: Why the NHLPA opposes a 50-50 revenue split

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NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr is against a very complex 50-50 revenue split between players and owners. (Dave Reginek/NHLI/Getty Images)

By Stu Hackel

As the two sides in the NHL’s talks warily circle each other, dukes up, in the early rounds of this collective bargaining rematch, one proposed solution to a major economic stumbling block is the subject of a good deal of debate: that of the 50-50 revenue split between the owners and players.

Here’s the thought behind this purported answer: The players currently get 57 percent of the NHL’s revenue, and the owners have proposed they receive far less (anywhere from 43-46 percent depending on how things get calculated, but let’s overlook that for a moment — the idea is that the owners want to reduce the players’ share substantially). So, the reasonable mind may conclude, why don’t they just split the difference? Divide it 50-50, which is much like what the  players and owners in both the NFL and NBA settled on following the lockouts in those respective sports.

In fact, some believe that a 50-50 split is the reason the owners’ proposal for the players’ share came in as low as it did. This is a negotiation, after all. Your first offer isn’t necessarily your final one. You want to leave room to negotiate.

Michael Grange of Sportsnet.ca articulated this — and a good number of fans who want the season to proceed are likely to agree — in his piece last week, which suggested “five easy steps” that would “end CBA negotiations forever.” It was his first point during which he wrote, “While I’m no fan of the owners’ bully tactics (“We’ll shut down the league, squeeze a few paydays out of you, and when you get desperate maybe you’ll listen to reason”), I find it hard to get too bent out of shape when the owners are forking over more than half of their revenues to the players. Good on the players for scrapping for every last dime, but an even split of revenues from now until the end of time seems like common sense to me. Just do it — and shut up about it.”

The 50-50 split was also raised by a few reporters, Grange among them, during Donald Fehr’s conference call last Friday afternoon. As Grange said on the call, “The common perception is, there’s four bucks on the table, we’re partners, you get two, I get two.”

Fehr’s responses to Grange and the others were very enlightening and, at times, also a bit confusing. Generally, he presented a cogent explanation of the NHLPA’s perspective on the 50-50 split argument — and why it is something of an oversimplification rooted in misunderstanding. Not coincidentally, Fehr’s feelings represent part of the major gap both sides currently admit exists between them.

For one thing, while the NFL and NBA have gone to more of a 50-50 split in revenues — and this is the industry standard the NHL owners wish to emulate — the way in which those sports define the revenue they split differs from the NHL’s definition. “The economic systems are different in the various sports,” Fehr pointed out. “For example, the football number is not based on the same revenue definitions [as the NHL] even remotely.”

As Fehr explained it, when we hockey fans and media have discussed a 50-50 revenue split, we’re not talking about dividing the same revenue pool that the negotiators are discussing. What they are discussing is “Hockey Related Revenue (HRR)” which is not the total amount of revenue in the business. HRR is revenue from which a number of items have been subtracted. I elaborated on what HRR is, as defined by the current CBA, in a post earlier this month. Among what is removed from the total revenue are: money teams make from waiver claims on players; money the NHL makes from moving teams or granting expansion franchises; revenues that teams receive from operating other clubs, such as AHL affiliates; fines collected from players and teams; any money teams make through financial transactions, such as loans, interest income or investments; and the sale or leasing of real estate. All those categories of revenue don’t count when determining HRR, which is the pool from which the players draw their percentage under this salary cap system. Additionally, the CBA excludes from HRR  “any costs, including fixed and variable costs, attributable to a revenue-generating activity” — anything spent while accumulating HRR, including the salaries of employees whose duties contribute to the revenue activities.

You do have to wonder how some of those things are not considered non-hockey related, but that’s the deal under which everyone has operated for the past seven years. What goes into — and is left out of — HRR has been disputed by the NHL and the union for quite some time now.

Unfortunately, Fehr declined to mention any of those subtracted items specifically on the conference call when Grange asked him what was excluded from HRR. He gave little detail other than to say, “It has to do with some cost cap limitations and things like that related to how revenue is raised and so on. We (the NHL and NHLPA) also don’t see eye-to-eye in all respects on how revenue is to be counted. But hopefully we’d like to work those things out.”

But a main point Fehr made is that if one adds all the non-HRR back into the total revenue picture, the split between the owners and players is, in fact, roughly 50-50 right now.

On top of that, as I mentioned in that earlier Red Light post, the owners want to make changes to the current definition of HRR and take even more out of it — what it costs to occupy their arenas and a percentage of their finance, support and general management expenses.

So this isn’t as cut and dried as four bucks divided by two. And Fehr even disputed the idea that the players and owners should be considered partners. “If we are partners,” he said, “do we have joint control? Do we get to have an equal say in how the marketing is done, how the promotion is done, where the money is invested, where the franchises are located? Do we have an equal say on when teams are sold, where the money goes, do we get part of that? Do we have an equal say in how the television arrangements are done? Do we have an equal say on anything? That’s what a partnership normally implies.”

Grange responsed, “What you hear from the other side is, ‘No, you don’t get all of that. But you don’t have to fund losses, and you’re guaranteed a share of revenue and not profit.’”

To which Fehr plainly answered, “That’s what the owners wanted.” Which is to say, this isn’t really a partnership, now, is it?

So, there’s nothing magical about a 50-50 divide as far as Fehr is concerned. “I am sure from the owners’ standpoint, any number below 57 looks better than 57, and the farther you can get below 57, the better it looks,” he stated when answering another question in the Friday briefing. “We all know that; that’s not an open question.”

As for the NBA and NFL splits serving as the models for the NHL, Fehr sneered at that concept, offering, “As we made the point at the table, if in the NBA negotiations they had eliminated the cap or gone to 65 percent, I assure you the NHL owners would not be saying, ‘Follow the basketball model.’”

Fehr’s larger point, of course, is that the 57 percent the players currently receive is not fair market value for their services, a claim he makes because players pulled in far more than 57 percent of the revenues before the salary cap limited what they could make. “The normal way we value things in North American economic arrangements is we have a market value,” he said. “And we know the players aggregate market value is more than 57 percent. But the owners didn’t want to pay that much.” And in this negotiation, he added the players are “willing to live with that, if we can work out an agreement.

“There are no caps on what a general manager gets paid. There are no caps on a head coach, there are no caps on ticket prices, there are no caps on what a franchise sells for. There are no caps or limitations on anything except players’ salaries. So the fundamental question you have to ask if you’re going to go down that route is, ‘How in the world did you ever get into that situation?’ But the players have indicated, both the last time and this time, that in a maximum good faith effort to try and make an arrangement, they are willing to consider that.”

It’s abundantly clear that Fehr is no fan of the salary cap but, at least the way he portrays it, his constituents can live with it — and why not? They’ve hardly suffered under the current CBA. As he is fond of saying, he works for them, so he’s negotiating a deal under a cap system he’s philosophically against, one he opposed at every turn when he represented the Major League Baseball players.

But he’s also no fan of this 50-50 talk and, on that, he and his constituents agree.

Sadly for those of us who just wish there were easy answers to the differences between the NHL and NHLPA, this issue is more complicated than we hoped that it would be. Much of the CBA’s economic structure is complicated, and everyone is starting to understand that, including the players who were so optimisitic about their “alternate proposal” prior to Gary Bettman’s response to it last Wednesday. Fehr described his talks with players at an NHLPA regional meeting in Chicago as “sobered.”

And the owners, who may have thought their opening proposal would prompt negotiations that would close the gaps between their numbers and what the players would want, have discovered that won’t be so easy, either.

Perhaps that’s why when Fehr was asked Friday if he thought there would be a lockout, he deviated from his standard response of, “I’m out of the prediction business.” This time, his answer was a bit more sympathetic: “I wish I knew the answer to that, too,” he said. “I’ve got about 750 guys out there that would like to know the answer to that.”

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  • Published On Aug 20, 2012
  • 8 comments
    BrandonTrowbridge3
    BrandonTrowbridge3

    In what other line of work does an employee take home 50% of the profits of the business they are working for?  Does anyone out there work for a company that has signed them up for a 50% profit sharing plan?  If so, please let me know and I will sell every investment I own and become a "employee" of that company.  The players have absolutely zero risk and zero liability in a successful or not so successful business when they are not owners of the business.  What happened to all the players of the Atlanta Thrashers last year (when the business side of things went sideways)?  They just went to play for another team, the owners they assume all the risk and liability of running the business (in this case the hockey team).  The players get paid their salaries much like the rest of the world gets their hourly wage/salary, at maximum a 4% match to a 401k contribution and if they company has a profit sharing plan it is tied to their wage/salary.  The NHL cannot afford another lockout, they are already the smallest of the 4 major sports and in a year where they had and opportunity to capitalize on the lockout of the NBA they would be foolish to let this go to a strike. 

    Stu Hackel
    Stu Hackel moderator like.author.displayName 1 Like

     @BrandonTrowbridge3 No one is talking about taking home 50 percent of the profits. The discussion concerns percentage  of hockey related revenue, which is a different calculation specific to this industry, as all the economics of the NHL are.  And its not all the employees of the teams who make that percentage, only the ones who the fans pay to see. In fact, in every U.S. pro team sport, the players make in the neighborhood of half the revenue. So if you want to, as you say, sell all your investments and become a pro athlete, go ahead. Best of luck to you. And if you believe you have zero risk, when you blow out your knee and get concussed and your career is over before it has started, I guess you didn't have any risk, so it's OK to not have any more work in your chosen profession, the only one you are probably trained for. Additionally, just because the average career span of a pro athlete is probably about four or five years and there is no such limitations on how long someone can own a sports franchise, when you're done, you can comfort yourself by using your thinking that you are just like every other worker in the world -- except you won't have a job. I suggest if you really want to understand what this potential dispute is about, you'd be better off not drawing comparisons between pro sports and the general work force. This is a far, far different industry.

    AF Whigs
    AF Whigs

     @Stu Hackel  @BrandonTrowbridge3 I agree 100% Stu.  I don't get upset about what pro athletes are paid because they have special talents that earns those wages (in most cases, anyway - highly-paid NFL rookies who are huge busts perhaps being the biggest exception. But at least their performance, at some level, puts them in a position to earn what they do.)   And when a player gets injured their value to the team becomes zero.  It's a tough business, but obviously the possibility of great rewards exists.   In my life I've met probably a dozen guys who were high level college prospects in various sports with pro potential who had career-ending injuries in school and so never even got a chance at a payday.  Or even top high school prospects whose dreams get derailed by injury before getting to college.  The point being, pro sports are a longshot at best, but for every guy who makes it to the pros, how many could have made it but didn't due to injury?

     

    And Brandon, I also agree with you that the NHL needs to get a grip and just settle this.  If they have asperations to ever become a more popular sport, they need to be stable and provide fans - old and new - with their product, on schedule and without all of the nastiness that comes from a labor dispute.  Don't kill the golden goose.

    John9
    John9

    How many players in the last year lost money playing hockey?!?  Do you think the constant multi-market ownership turmoil is just a play by the owners?  You think they like the NHL looking unstable?  IT IS unstable!  The Forbes numbers are all we have to judge by and they paint an ugly picture.  Call the split whatever you want and buy into Fehr's double-talk all you like, this is a barely profitable business.  As a fan, I can only hope the owners win BIG, because without a 10%+ increase in profitability, the NHL's going to plagued with continuing instability and the next CBA negotiation will be the same story.

    csemach
    csemach

     @John9 I dunno, how many owners lost money selling parking spots, renting out the arena for non-hockey related matters, and beer for $10? What's good for the goose...

    John9
    John9

     @csemach   Seriously?  You think a player making $1-10 million/yr with no hockey-related expenses is comparable to an owner losing money on their team and trying to make up for it with non-hockey revenue?  Economic stability is the best scenario for fans and that requires a decrease in player share and increased profit sharing.

    PopsTwitTar
    PopsTwitTar

    Among the dopey things the NHLPA agreed to in the last lockout, setting up a distinction between "HRR" and Non-HRR was one of the dopiest.  Excluding relocation and expansion fees was probably *the* dopiest.  All this distinction did was present more opportunities for NHL clubs to try to find creative ways to shield money from the players, and invite more arguments.  And surprise surprise, now both sides want to tweak the definition of HRR in ways that suit them.

     

    I won't be surprised if, when the new CBA deal is all done, the definition of HRR stays the exact same as it is now.